"Baptists" for the Holy Roman Empire, the Variant at 1 Timothy 3:16

So do you ever watch a movie and it's it just you get to parts where you you sort of have to turn it off or you have to look away or something like that?

Free solo Alex Honnold climb of El Capitan When he gets to the boulder problem

It took me a while to be able to watch it it really did I can watch it now because I've seen it you know 30 times but Yeah That that is so far beyond anything that I could possibly even imagine doing that it's

Wow, I'm afraid of heights if I can fall off something forget it and So I just found out that Alex Honnold is going to free solo

The Taipei 101 building in Taiwan. It's a hundred and one stories straight -up on January 23rd 8 p .m.

Eastern Time Live So they're not even like just recording it and then playing it later if he falls it's

Gonna be right there, you know, no ropes. No safety. No CGI none of that And I Understand that since free solo he's gotten married and has a child

Okay All right, well there you go

Yeah, so two things Really excited about the announcement yesterday

Then some interesting commentary online about that not a whole lot Of as I expected a lot of the critics of our ministry and our work

The topics were going to be addressing Issues of the historical context the second

Nicene Council in 787 Byzantine state religion All that kind of stuff just not even in their in their

Ways of thinking so they don't know anything about it. So they're not going to I'm gonna comment on that But yet as it may

Some of the comments were interesting sort of fun and I think the people who understand the importance of the topic understand the pivotal nature of The first seven ecumenical councils and especially the seventh recognize how central that is to the authority claims everything else you hear everything you're hearing right now about Pope Leo meeting with the

Cardinals and they're talking about tradition all that stuff you need to understand Roman Catholics go

Oh We have this wonderful system of authority and we can we can give you Final answers and all the rest of stuff that you almost never get and that then you can watch them get contradicted later on But you can't say anything about it because you don't have the right to interpret what was said before anyways

And so it just becomes this mishmash of mashed potatoes, but anyway All these, you know bright -eyed bushy -tailed

Roman Catholic apologists and Orthodox apologists Talking about you know, the ancient unchanging

Church and all the rest of stuff. Hey, once you build that big old hunkin mess of authority claims

It all stands or falls together and when you say the ecumenical councils are infallible and The seventh was anything but but you've wedded yourself to that Once it's demonstrated that that council was an error

What are you left with I Mean you may you may try to say well, you know, it's just a 107

Nothing like that. You know, that's just one Pope of hundreds, you know, we're good.

We're all right Maybe that's all you got left. I don't know but It's really important.

It really really is important and I think as we get closer and we talk more about it and give more of the background people understand more and more why that is

I completely space the fact that on Tuesday, I was going to address a

Video that came out last week from the Unitarian that I'm debating next a couple weeks from now and Then we moved the dividing line back a day and then this other stuff happened and we we got the truly a debate

Nailed down and so I didn't do that. So I'm gonna get to that today But on the last program,

I also said that I would address this Article that is at The not so new

Christian, right? Here it is a big screen you can take a look at you tell me

It's obvious to me whoever made this graphic That is meant to be

President Trump He's under the Cairo He's holding a cross.

It says Holy Western Empire He's got a sword in his hand their Cairo is all over the place on the shield on his breastplate

Crown on his head that is clearly meant to be Donald Trump, which is just Disgusting and frightening on many levels

But it's it's the it's a great picture of sacral ism It's a great pick of where to go.

It's a great picture of sacral ism because you see Not only on the right hand side.

Do you have that's too little

And in fact that's all squished down the corner there we go So over here on the right hand side, you've got the soldiers and their weapons and so on so forth

But over here here, you've got the religious folks, you know, and so it's all one state religious

Entity, this is sacral ism. This is sacral ism on steroids. This is sacral ism This was the sacral ism that prompted the

Reformation so anyone promoting this is not going to remain a friend of the

Reformation and For a lot and eventually they're gonna go, you know, that probably wasn't the wisest thing we've ever done and they're gonna

Abandon terms like reformed and Reformation and all those other things But this this

You have to remember One of the things that triggered you can put down the bottom again if you want.

Um, one of the things the triggered Martin Luther was he took a pilgrimage to Rome in 1510 and He Walked from Germany to Rome and back here.

Okay. Another way of doing it. Um, and One of the things that triggered him,

I mean the corruption of Rome was obvious The worldliness of Rome was obvious the religious worldliness of Rome was obvious But He saw the

Pope riding through the streets of Rome wearing armor

Sword and staff leading his army and that's when that's when

Luther is like the the church has become the state and Has been corrupted

By the power the money. This isn't what? Christ called his church to be and that was very important in Later developments in his theology and thought that led to the process of Reformation and here you have it.

This is these folks Mock the term sacralism while promoting it completely

And you look at this this is Roman Catholic Okay, this

Did what? You have two movements going here, but this

Quote -unquote Protestant Christian nationalists, which is Christless nationalism is simply

Roman Catholic integralism Without having yet bowed the knee to the Pope.

That's just a little step down the road. Okay, we already see these guys

De -emphasizing The theology they once held We've already seen how quickly they will abandon, you know, just a few years ago.

Oh, yeah that Thomism stuff Yeah, we don't need to go back to Aristotle. We don't need Aristotle's got a little fast forward six months later

And all of a sudden. Oh Yeah, actually, I hadn't really thought that through real well.

I hadn't done 10 ,000 hours of reading on it So I have now and yeah, Thomas is great.

And you know a van till he was an idiot and blah blah blah blah and so you just You see what's coming?

It's it's obvious and here it is just as plain as day because remember see the

Cairo up in the sky You know, that's from that's from Constantine's vision of The cross a later tradition the

Cairo but Constantine has this vision in this sign conquer and And that's why

Constantine led his armies out of Rome To attack his enemy at the

Milvian Bridge because he had this vision. This is later You know whether that's really what happened or not

But this is later tradition. This is what happened. So that's what's being shown here Constantine Constantine the great

Eastern Orthodoxy has has made him equal to the Apostles as As as elevated him to the highest realms of spiritual authority

It was a politician Okay That's the reality anyways, but here you go.

That's that's what sacralism does and The gospel just gets lost. That's why

I say it's Christless nationalism. You don't have to have regeneration You don't have to have the spirit.

You don't have to have anything particularly Christian actually just some vague Stuff symbols things like that But there you go.

So there has long been this desire on the part of people to The the what was called the

Holy Roman Empire Charlemagne Charles the great there were some great leaders but it it rose out of the ashes of the falling of the

Western part of the Roman Empire and so it existed for centuries in In various sundry forms, but it was always aspiring to be much more than it ever actually was and It again was simply the failed sacralism that developed out of the

Constantinian Synthesis that grew over time nobody nobody in Constantine's day could have seen this they weren't intending this but that's what happened

Primarily because the fall of the Western Roman Empire and therefore there's a power vacuum and the church stepped into that and and So on and so forth and so you ended up with Christendom with Christendom with masses of unconverted people doing religious stuff in the name of Christ without the gospel and That's what they want again.

At least we were united. It's better than the LGBTQ stuff.

See that's that's the whole idea now. It's better than that Okay, that's where this is descended to so Weban writes

Well, whether he wrote it or is just quoting it. Yeah Here's I called this just the manifesto for sacralism

Christianity did not conquer the world by asking permission It spread because Christian nations possessed confidence authority and the means to govern by the way

Again, Joel Weban doesn't know enough about history to fill a thimble and he just keeps

Demonstrating that over and over again But the Christian Church grew when it was persecuted

The Christian Church grew when the Roman Empire was trying to destroy it Um The the blood of the martyrs was the seat of the church and It was only after the worst persecution from 303 to 313 that the

Roman Empire eventually capitulated and You end up with a Constantine in 313 314 that area

But It was not Armies that did that It was the martyr church the suffering church that did that's the history, but you know these guys history

We don't need to worry about something up The Roman Empire unified territory and built infrastructures allowed the gospel to move across continents true actually

Greece did that initially and then the Romans picked it up Spanish and Portuguese Empires. Okay. Now that's now we just jumped thousand years in the future

Spanish and Portuguese Empires carried Christianity to the Americas. Ah You think these guys are gonna be able to stand against Roman Catholicism much longer when they speak like this

Because now Christianity is just becoming this vague, you know religious symbols stuff Again, gospel cannot be discussed by these guys anymore

They may do it over there on a Thursday or something like that, but not in this context British rule carried it into India and Africa missionaries followed armies and churches followed courts.

Well Super oversimplification super oversimplification there were a lot of of Ways in which the faith spread and there were a lot of ways in which false false faith spread, too

And yes, God can draw a straight line the crooked stick So God used the British Empire to do some great things and to bring the gospel lots of people but it wasn't

The the testimony The suffering testimony of the martyr missionaries was not on the back of armies at all and It it reviles them to pretend this kind of simplicity simplistic foolishness

Pagan practices ended because they were outlawed human sacrifice stopped because it was punished widow burning in India ended because British Authority forbade it and enforced the ban

Literacy spread because missionaries built schools and translated scriptures into local languages The Bible is not handed out as a suggestion.

It was taught inside ordered societies governed by Christian law Well, there's a lot of truth to that No one's arguing that the application of general

Christian principles are a great fine wonderful Um because they are why because that's how

God made us to live That's how that's how God Ordered his world.

And so yes bringing God's law to bear great fine. Wonderful. That's a good thing to do

But how do you bring that about it sounds like given that it's over a picture of people with swords and everything else

That it's not the gospel. It does It's political power

That's sacralism. So we're going back to sacralism 1 .0. Just realize these guys are going back to what

Rome already tried We had a reformation that dealt with that, but they're undoing it.

So don't call them reformed anymore Okay, if you've got swords and stuff like that And you're gonna go do your thing and the gospel has now been thrown out the window and it can be compromised

We can go ahead and and call What the Spanish conquistadors did well, that's that's

Christian it's good enough close enough gospel No, not really, but hey good enough.

Well We want the power. So we'll go there. We'll uh Well, we'll run with that.

That's what you're that's the cost That's the cost of the new Christian, right? This is part this is the part modern

Christians are trained to whisper or deny Christianity advanced fastest when it was backed by power

Power. Yes. Yes that power of the martyrs that overturned

Rome. Yeah It did not flourish because it was neutral it flourished because it was dominant

Nations were discipled the same way men are discipled through teaching correction and authority.

I Guess that's where the article goes Again great straight -up statement of sacralism that's why they they mock it because it is so accurately describing what they're doing and That's why calling it the new

Christian. Right is such a joke This is the old Christian right from the last century

Okay, this is This is what you had in Italy. Yeah, it's fascism and that's why they don't mind those terms

And that's why they play footsie with the neo -nazis and White boy summer and all the rest of stuff because that's where they're going

They can't help it. They're not they're not coming up with anything new They're just stick their finger up in the air.

See where the wind is blowing do their thing. That's what it's all about So there you go Okay.

I wanted to I said I was gonna mention that and all right now Completely changing gears here

As I said, and you know what get me

Get me the you I send me the URL, please. I don't have time to look for it here for the the gospel truth debate thing in Dallas Coming up.

I should have had this queued up. I should have had from last time. I need I need to know the

Of Order of the debates and Stuff like that.

They're gonna be taking place. I think I think people should be praying for these encounters I've debated a number of the people who are

Debating Trent horn is going to be there. I've debated Barker latent flowers.

So yeah, it's gonna be like old home week old home week for me There we go.

Thank you. And Did he there it is?

Unfortunately that took my screen down, but that's okay All right, so Except that's not the it doesn't give me

Drat, it doesn't give you the order. Oh, it's show all agenda. There we go first day agenda

Eli Ayala versus Dan Barker Okay Love Eli solid guy

Really gonna enjoy this one. I Don't know that Dan Barker knows what he's getting into and to be honest with you.

I don't think Dan Bothers to prepare much anymore he just sort of Does this same old thing each time over and over again?

It's starting to get a little repetitive, but I've debated Dan Barker. Dan Barker is one of the first atheists that I ever took on on the

Tom like a show in the 1980s Okay, so Dan's been around a while. He's getting a little long in the tooth like I am

And he was older than me back then. So man, I'm I'm wondering how old he is. He may be in his 70s

He really could be so Eli tried to You could just outlast him just don't quote his book.

Yeah, just don't call him his book Only quote what he says in the debate, even if he goes second, um

Then I'm the afternoon. I'm the I'm the sleepy time guy.

Okay, Dustin Smith and I Will be debating does the

Bible teach Trinity? So it's a Unitarian debate. I I wish it had been a little bit more along the lines of Trinity or or Unitarianism You know,

I'm used to being thrown on the on the Defensive and I guess

I'll be there again, but that's whatever That's 235 to 450.

Then there's an intermission and 515 to 735 Avery Austin God logic versus Jake Brancatella The Islamic dilemma so Jake and I did a discussion.

I don't know if we don't think we really called it a debate but In the big studio about two years ago, and then if I recall correctly

Jake had a health scare he was sort of out of it for a little while and We prayed for him and wished the best best for him

But I guess he's back on his feet and functioning and stuff so Um That's gonna be the first day and I very much want to be there the second day

Why doesn't it show the second day? Oh, it's that day to agenda. Here we go Second day in the morning

Matt slick versus not her Achmed now Is G is just a prophet or more than a prophet.

I'm sorry another Achmed Was well named Another being the low point

Neither can't make a rational argument. He cannot connect facts together in any meaningful fashion.

So As long as Matt is conscious, we know what's gonna happen with that one

Then in the afternoon the snooze Sleepy time debate is actually not gonna be over his sleepy time latent flowers versus Jeremiah and our tear

Conditional or unconditional election and Then in the evening Anthony Rogers versus Trent horn on solo scripture,

I would love to be there for each one of those I Would have been I certainly planned on that until what happened happened down in Livingston and the church split of a church rebellion that took place there and the

Just the nastiness of the anti reformed folks The very folks who will not defend their statements in public

Being involved in helping to split churches and stuff like that. It's just it's vile. It really is just disgusting and so with the establishment of a new well a

Bunch of people left that church with Brian Gunter and they've gone to reform Baptist Church.

And so that church is Ballooned in size And so no there's gonna be challenges and pressures that come with that obviously and So I contacted

Brian and said, you know, it's eight hours but I'd love to swing by and encourage you all and He said do it.

And so I'm zipping on that Saturday, and I don't think these are live streams.

I won't be able to Listen, but I'm gonna zip down to The Baton Rouge area and do

Sunday school Sunday morning Sunday night at the reform Baptist Church there it's sort of Northwest of where the other church was and I'll be there.

I think we have the information up. I think I'm pretty sure it's on the it's on the calendar Yeah, I know it is and then head home from there so That's what's coming up with with all of that and so all of that to say that The debate that I'm going to be doing

Where'd it go There it is the the debate that I'm gonna be doing

As Broad as the topic is With Dustin Smith, that's who

I'm responding to in In the comments, I'll be making here.

I Tried to use Keynote here. I have keynote up and When I went into Presenter mode, which would make this full screen

Totally full screen. I Want to be able to point to stuff so I'm just gonna use this format that I have here and hopefully that will

Work Yeah, it looks good enough I mean, I mean you could lose the left -hand side there if you wanted to lose it, but it doesn't really make much difference

Anyway, dr. Smith Put up a video if I recall correctly.

It was about a 45 50 minute Presentation Yeah, I said integralism.

That is what I said. Anyway, um, and it is on the subject of first Timothy 316

And one of the reasons I want to respond to it Was not so much To disagree.

I disagree to some of his conclusions. Certainly was his exegesis Most what he said about The variant and the reasons for the variant as far as The textual critical stuff was fairly accurate.

I Did not agree that that he went with a sort of a conspiracy theory perspective

And that is that this variant arose around the time of the

Council of Nicaea and so someone's purposefully trying to Insert the deity of Christ into the text when it wasn't there before there as I will show you there is a simple

Explanation for how the variant arose It's a very easy explanation and when there are simple easy explanations, you do not need to have conspiracy theories

But what was really interesting is some of you older folks the algos amongst you

Will remember a Discussion that took place

Again, I forget which year it was between my myself and a

King James only pastor here in Phoenix area

Who has? Made himself quite famous over the years.

He's not as famous as he used to be He sort of lost his platform during kovat

When the platform started Using that as an excuse to cut everybody off, but Steven Anderson You know was pretty well known for a while and then you know about two years ago a couple of his adult children came out and accused him of all sorts of stuff and and That was ugly and I didn't want to get into all that You know

That kind of airing of family stuff there's always two sides and neither side no side is ever balanced the truth somewhere in between and most of us don't have any

Really shouldn't have any reason getting involved with it. But anyway That sort of broke up though.

What was it called the new? Independent fundamentalism or something like that He was sort of the leader of it and that all broke up and a lot of the churches that had supported him

Stopped supporting him. And so they're sort of off on their own now anyways the key element of the movie that I was interviewed for his people contacted rich and said we'd like to interview

James White this movie we're doing and Rich just sort of mentioned it to me in passing figuring

I was just gonna blow it off Yeah, oh it was Steven Anderson himself, okay

Steven Anderson contacted rich and Rich just figured I was gonna go.

Yeah, right and I went yeah, okay, that's fine. Let's do it. And he it surprised you didn't it?

It was very very surprised. And so we did it right over in the room over here and Like I said,

I think more people have seen the end of the interview that we did like two hours and 15 minutes I'm like that Then saw the movie because they only used like 30 seconds of my comments in the movie

So that's normally how it happened We talked about a whole lot more than that in the interview and once it once he really started getting to some really weird stuff

Toward the end is when I finally said, okay, I think we're done here Attacking lordship salvation and weirdness like that so What was the primary thrust of the movie this text and that's what

I wanted to point out to you is The variant if you see what's on the screen here

This is an old I should redo this I mean, I don't that this screen this shot is from logos and That's I probably did that 15 17 years ago now

Maybe even longer but here you have and By common confession

Great is the mystery of godliness He who is manifest in the flesh justified in the spirit or vindicated in the spirit seen by angels proclaimed on in the

Nations amongst Gentiles goes on from there the variant is

Marked rather clearly right here. So you have this little This little mark in the

Nessie Holland apparatus you go over to the data and here you find it right there same mark and You're given the variance.

So Codex D codex basic and ever Jancis the Living Bible of the early church and some

Latin manuscripts have a neuter pronoun Instead of the masculine which would you have

Haas over here? That's a very minor variant. But then here's the major variant right here

Manuscript 88 and a few others PC is policy a few others have ha they

OS so the word God with the article But then they

OS without the article is Read by the corrector of Sinaiticus.

That's Codex Aleph their corrector of Alexandrinus second hand a C second hand of basic and Jancis size 1739 1881 1739 1881 fairly important miniscule manuscripts from the turn of the

Millennium and is the majority reading so this Proctor M is majority text majority reading and manuscripts of the

Vulgate Latin translation the text Now you will notice that there are no papyri we would have a

Proctor P for papyrus 47 or in this case 46

If it contained first Timothy, but it doesn't we don't have early papyri of this section of first Timothy and so Sinaiticus and Alexandrinus are the earliest here

I'm wondering where Vaticanus is and must have a lacuna Because it's not not listed at least in what's on my screen right now

This is again a screenshot that took years ago But the asterisk means the original reading of Sinaiticus the original reading of Alexandrinus the originally you see

FG 33 very important miniscule 33 Just just a brief comment for all the geeks in the audience

The advent of CBGM, which we haven't talked about in a while Mainly because nothing new has come out in way too long

It's getting frustrating for a lot of us Covid just evidently just completely derailed the whole project

But CBGM and the edition of Critica Mayor that's being produced out of Munster I'd say the one manuscript that has

Catapulted to the top of Accurate manuscripts according to CBGM analysis 33

It's as really really Had its value

Added shall we say? Three six five a few others and some of the early church fathers here. They're listed.

So the point is The King James and a new King James say

God was manifested in the flesh Everybody else says he who was manifested in the flesh now

You can see why the King James only us or the Unitarians are attracted to this fact

Why well? for the exact opposite reasons for the exact opposite reasons

So what was Stephen Anderson's thing? What is that what is the constant King James only

Diatribe about this those liberal Bible translators they hate the deity of Christ and they're taking it out of the

Bible and God's true Bible the King James Version says God was manifested in the flesh and they hate that and so they take it out and blah blah blah blah and they preach sermons and they

Pound on the pulpit and I'm sure Stephen Anderson climbed on top of his pulpit at least once in preaching about something like this and So that's why they want to do the interview and that's what the movie was about so you've got the

King James fundamentalists and they're big on this and they've got their viewpoint and then the irony to me anyways was here is a

Unitarian that I'm gonna be debating and And Here is the opposite perspective now

Dr. Smith is significantly more Trained erudite

Convincing in his presentations and Stephen Anderson in fact,

I'd like to suggest I I Would like to suggest to dr.

Smith because I imagine he'll probably watch this. He'll probably see that I mentioned this But I would like to suggest

Dustin how about you challenge Stephen Anderson to debate That would

I Would find I would pay to watch that if that was pay -per -view

I'd pay 20 bucks to watch to watch that particular one live just for the fun of it That would be intriguing and of course it put me in a weird weird position, you know

Because you know, I'm not gonna be rooting for the Unitarian but You know when the

Unitarian is right about the reading but wrong about why? You know, it's gonna put you in a strange situation.

So anyway If you just look at the textual data What you see is a majority text reading to us

God Versus a minority text reading Haas he who? However The minority text reading is by far the earliest and so then you'll start hearing.

Well earliest doesn't mean better and you When whenever you're dealing with King James only ism or TR only ism or Byzantine text only ism, whatever

Whatever art set of arguments you're going to run into Will depend upon the variant that you're looking at so in this one, the earliest reading is clearly

Haas and So you'll attack Older is better but then when you run into TR readings and King James readings that are

That Themselves are minority readings that go against the

Byzantine majority then they just abandon all that and They adopt a different form of argumentation because they're not actually arguing about how you find out what the text is

They're actually just defending a particular text And so you just use whatever arguments you need to use to come up with the text you've already decided is the right one

That's that's how it works. Oh Cool brief interruption

Twitter Julie married to Thomas is Listening I Julie married to Thomas Said James White is talking about Alex Honnold Who my son has climbed with more than once and gave him a gospel of John to read

So it's a picture of her son with Alex Alex seems like a really nice guy

He really does. I do not want anything bad to happen to Alex. I really really don't and Man, I would love to see him come to know the

Lord. I really would I mean talk about an incredibly talented individual

If you haven't seen free solo It is astonishing it it it's a great watch unless you're afraid of heights and Then it you will have a hard time.

Oh, I took me a while. No, I couldn't know I the first first time I started watching it. I'm like, no, no, no

No, no can't do it because you start getting this feeling in your knees and and the backs of your legs and you're just like whoa

No, I can't do this. It's that bad I I would just never forget years and years and years ago when we were everything was packed into my house and we'd had a monsoon storm that blew the roof off the back of the the house where The print shop and stuff was yeah, and I'm up there trying to patch stuff.

I need you to get something and you're like Suddenly, I see the top of your head come up over the the the roof line and you look terrified.

Oh, yeah As far as I'm going and it was just a one -story house folks eight foot tall ceilings, you know

I mean flat roof and that was the most I could get out of you. No, no now

I I did defeat a lot of that once I started riding up in Colorado and If you can ride of a road bike up Mount Evans and then back down Mount Evans where there's all sorts of places where There's no there's no guardrail and it just goes off like that I I beat a lot of that but no, especially if it's something that I can fall off of yeah can't do it so anyway, thank you for interrupting that and and You can't see it.

Oh So so Julie is the one who should be Reprimanded for interrupting the program.

Okay. All right. Okay, so Julie stop interrupting discussions of deep theological topics with Alex Honnold tweets

That's your it's all your fault. And now Chris Han holds has gotten into it. Nice. She's got a shout -out

Anybody else you want me to mention while we're just while I'm sitting here doing a Twitter break You know, okay.

All right, so Back to what we're looking at here so There's a variant is it

God was a manifest in the flesh now when I make when I when I give this presentation I will give other examples for example,

John 118 where God is used of Jesus in the earlier text, but not in later texts and of course the

King James only us try to ignore that one as much as possible or blame it on Gnosticism Again, no consistency in the argumentation

Whatsoever But it was the irony of having a

Unitarian and a Independent fundamentalist Baptist King James only radical looking at the same text and Coming to obviously opposite conclusions

But still both of them allowing I think their theological context override just simply looking at the text and What I mean by that well

You can look at the data. It's right there in front of you. You can you can you can see the manuscripts? Okay, you can see which manuscripts say what you can weigh these manuscripts things like that, but that doesn't explain how the the the variant arose and That's what people need to understand because unfortunately

When you see variants like this, it's far too easy to get into the

YouTube Conspiracy theory Candice Owens.

Oh my goodness. Candice. Did you see that today? Oh My goodness

Charlie Kirk was a time traveler and There were agents like in the matrix following him his entire life

She has gone utterly insane Completely off the edge.

I mean Somebody needs to get her some help and get her away from a microphone and a camera.

I mean Wow. Hello Anyways, I'm where's her husband.

I mean, is there anybody in her life that can go? Okay. All right, that's enough that that's no

You've got children You need to you need to stop Are you following me at all on Twitter now school now squirrels saying

I haven't had a shout out in a while Well good old gene up there in the frozen tundra who had a

I think a 72 hour blackout Recently in the cold and he doesn't have a wood stove

How do you not I don't know that that caught me to how do you live in Montana without a wood stove?

I mean without a pile of lumber that you've been piling up all summer long. I Don't know.

I don't my sister and brother -in -law have a mountain of wood that they burn all winter long and we don't get near the

Temperatures in Prescott. Anyway, yeah. Yeah. Okay Squirrel you asked for a shout out and now that's not the shout out you were expecting.

Okay You you need to have you know a potbelly stove, you know something

We saw you all wrapped up in blankets You are you are really depending upon the electrical grid out there in the piney woods

Dude, come on. No, no, we if we need to start a GoFundMe or something

You know, let's let's put a GoFundMe page together for squirrels wood stove that he needs to install in the house

For mrs. Squirrel, definitely no two ways about it. All right. What are we talking about here?

Okay All right. So how did this variant arise? Well, let's take a look at it, uh, oh

I can't do it this way because I'm doing it differently Dadada dadada. All right here

Here is what a Couple things to remember and yeah, I've only got 14 minutes up a couple things to remember the earliest manuscripts of the

New Testament for the first almost Nine hundred eight hundred nine hundred almost a thousand years of the transmission of the text of New Testament it was written in what's called unseal or a magiscule script and You can see that on the screen right now

Capital letters No spaces between words and almost no punctuation whatsoever

Now When you learn to read Greek and Then you run into this you're just left going what is that?

Because today's Greek texts so much more easy to read capital letters small letters spaces

Punctuation paragraphs all sorts of fun stuff. There was some paragraphing in the magical text.

But anyway reading unseal texts is

Something that takes a lot of practice and there aren't very many people that are overly good at it. I Was really getting into that for a while when

I was working on p45 Haven't had as much time to be doing that.

I've got there's a great set by the way the New Testament Pyre effect similes that Hendricks Hendrickson put out was

The SNTM that's great to have if especially if you like to have paper books, which you might want to have

Keep them. Don't get rid of them folks. Don't get rid of them. We don't know what the future is gonna hold So reading unseal text is very difficult to do and I don't know about you, but Copying this would be very difficult

Remember you don't have we have this perfect lighting in here. I've had LASIK You know, we have you know, we we can we can put our reading glasses on and and have lights at night

You're doing this by candlelight You know with no air conditioning and you're reading somebody else's handwriting

No one can even write anymore in any legible fashion basically so finding the variance

Finding the variance would arise The thing that amazes me is that there aren't more variants than there are

Now Up here is God's manifest of flesh and here's he who is manifest of flesh and you're probably gonna have a hard time seeing what?

the difference is if you look real carefully you can find it and I made it a little bit easier in the presentation by using color

Now that color doesn't help some men who are colorblind seriously, but you can see where the variant is now and Here is the

OS and here is Haas Haas is he who the OS is

God Now you might go. Well, wait a minute the OS that's even two syllables, but there's only two letters right

Because the OS is one of what's called the nomen a sacra The nomen a sacra the sacred names.

These were not just names but also some words We do not know we do not know there's lots of theories

It's a great thing to write a paper on if you wanna get published someplace But we do not know why

Christians adopted this particular form of writing

But they did almost universally You anytime you look at an ancient manuscript from the first second third fourth this centuries

You'll automatically be able to recognize a Christian manuscript by their use the nomen a sacra these abbreviations so if the

OS Was abbreviated as theta Sigma. Now, that's a Sigma That's not what a

Sigma looks like in minuscule script Because you have final form Sigmas and then the form of Sigma inside a word

But this way it was a magical script So it's Theta Sigma with a line over top now, let me remind you of something

Let me remind you what papyri look like and this is one of the things I do in the presentation

Yeah, here's here's p66 And that's a good shot of p66 one of the best shots

I've ever seen of p66 p66 from around 81 75 200

Is Written on papyrus now papyrus was you take the leaves of pyrus point and put them in 90 -degree angles.

You press them together on One side it produces a smooth writing surface

The back sides where the veins are of the leaves and it's a much rougher writing surface now for a scroll

That's no big deal. You just use the rough side on the inside and you write on the outside and and that's fine

Christians did not like to use scrolls So one of the major theories is they were trying to differentiate themselves from the

Jewish synagogue and its use of scrolls possible That's also one of the theories as to why the nomena sacra evolved as well and so Christians preferred the codex.

This is a codex. So you've got a spine. It's the modern form of the book and And That means they wrote on both sides including the rough side and What do you see there you see lines?

Do are there vertical lines? Yeah, but mainly horizontal lines and so Can you see how?

whether something a horizontal line was there or wasn't there especially if the scribe was

Copying and you know, you're using a quill and so you have to put ink and You you you can only write so many letters before the ink starts thinning out

What if right when it's thinning out is when you get to the key section a lot of these papyri.

That's what you'll find You'll find words that have you can you can even see up here. You can see a disc part right here

Now this is probably more as a result of where But you see how much darker the ink is here than it is up here probably due to where But You know like right here.

I mean there's some letters here that are very difficult to make out and as these

Have aged a lot of people are noticing that the photographs that were taken When they were first discovered 100 years ago are clearer than photographs today they are they are fading and That's why the work of CSNTM is so important in providing high quality digital photography of these manuscripts and so That's what papyrus was and so you have

Lines you have Vertical lines and what's the difference between the awesome ha so let me give it to you nice and big so you can see it there

There's a difference between God and he who And I've heard I've heard audiences just gasp when they see this

Because when they first heard the variant, yeah, that's a big difference he who versus God I mean, how could that ever happen?

I mean, that's that that has to be purposeful and then you see what it actually looked like and you go

Oh Wow That yikes. Yeah.

I mean look at that The only difference between these two is that thin line there and that thin line there.

So over here this is Codex Sinaiticus and You can see like look over here see the

The ta right here see a lot of that ink has faded over 1 ,800 years 1 ,700 years, you know darker down here lighter up here and But clearly

Here's the here's the variant that here's the word Haas. There's no line up here. There never was there's no line here.

There never was Now this is a much later hand and their entire books on the various scribes who worked on Sinaiticus and the variations over time

This is at least 700 years after the original different dates are given as to when this come you can a complete a completely different ink and Those three dots is how you indicate a variant.

This is a later scribe trying to Get Sinaiticus to read as the

Liturgical text of the day read which was by then the Byzantine Tradition, which was the majority tradition which read

God They've put Theta Sigma In a completely different reading a completely different ink there into the end of the manuscript, but the original that's why when we looked back at the stuff here see

There's Sinaiticus Corrected see the see that's what we're looking at and then here

Sinaiticus original So that's how this gives you the information that here you can see with your own eyes

Okay This one time by the way, those of you who listen to the dividing line and don't watch

You're at a disadvantage because we are showing graphic stuff here. That is actually of interest and helpful to you so So there's the there's the data

The reason why a variant could arise During the time when papyri are still the primary primary

Writing materials being used so in the early church papyrus Then after the piece of the church

Constantine gives money to the church for the copying of manuscripts at the Council Nicaea And now you can use vellum

Much smoother much cleaner. I mean when you look at Sinaiticus It is astonishing

Here's what it looked like when I first saw it and the British Library in 2005 or 6

And then look at that That's what it looks like. That's my codex

Sinaiticus down there. It weighs 45 pounds. I'm not pulling it out right now Um, but look at look at the penmanship the the professional level that you've got here and Then compare that to the earliest manuscripts of Paul's epistles

So for example, this is P46 175 and 200 again, it's on papyrus.

You can see the damage around the outside pros philippasius. This is Philippians I saw this in Dublin a number of years ago.

I've told the story Oh, and there's see the Nomena Sacra there. You can see the Nomena Sacra there there there there there

You can see it all the way all the way through So you have it

The manuscripts take on a different character when you have more money to do this work

But when you've got stuff like this back then it's easy to see how Has and Theos could be

Because both fit there Sometimes a variant just doesn't make any sense sometimes

Mistaking one word for another it just results in gibberish and is easily detected but whether it's

Theos or Has is not a grammatical issue and So, you know you can do the conspiracy theory thing and say yeah

They were specifically trying to do this and that's why you know, it's specifically been smuggled into King James like that No, the

King James is translating the Byzantine text. They didn't use manuscripts. They only use printed editions They use the the five editions of Erasmus.

They use Stephanos and they use Beza and they all read the same and so that's why it's there where they come from it came from Byzantine that comes from later text and Where the variant arise it if you have an obvious visual reason

With tremendous similarity between letters and words. I mean, it's just one letter one letter difference between the

Theta and the Omicron There's no reason to go beyond that into conspiracies

Now Bart Ehrman does that that's the weird thing here Bart Ehrman does that? He accuses the

Orthodox of corrupting the text of Scripture. That was his big big work back in the 90s and that's what dr.

Smith's doing and And Steven Anderson just doesn't get into my stuff he just blames the modern translators and blah blah blah blah but if you just want to really

Look at it. You've got to go Yeah, I can see how there there a variant could have arisen here without getting into all the other stuff without getting into without Impugning the motives of scribes or anything like that at all

When when nearsightedness or farsightedness can explain things it's probably better to go with that than to try to do the conspiracy theory thing and That's that's what

I would say in regards to this particular situation So if you've ever wondered about that variant, I hope that this helps you

Makes it very clear for you exactly what the difference is and how it arose and There you go, there you go, so all right

Went to one minute over. So if I hadn't done the shout outs to To all our friends out there to Julie and to Chris and to squirrel

And and if I get off the air here and find out that someone has started go fund me for squirrels

Stove that that'll that'll be great. That'll be That'd be pretty cool. All right.

Okay, so next week Is prep week and I leave over the weekend for the trip

We picked up the unit today and all the stuff we need to have fixed was fixed I did jump in rich and the the plugs were all done and You know the in the island, you know, they were all nice and nice and firm again and stuff like that and Right now it's just not looking like it's gonna be cold at all

It on this trip that that can all change But right now it just doesn't look like it's gonna be all that cold

So I don't think we have to worry about any of the other issues that we've had with things too But the one thing

I want to once again, I mentioned a few weeks ago Our sincere deep thanks to a particular individual who made it possible.

We have a new pole vehicle and I had loved the vehicle that we had

It was a super truck. I will always be a GMC guy from now on.

There's no two ways about it But it just didn't have much in the way of tech it really didn't

It had the cameras that allow me to hook up real nice and easy But the driving stuff

Lane stuff All that kind of stuff that makes spending hours and hours easier it didn't have any of that stuff and so a wonderful support of the ministry worked with rich and we traded in the

The old pole vehicle and I didn't want you to do that there we go and So I have a new truck to pull vehicle the

RV with I Pulled it today for the first time Wow Okay, I mean it was like is there not a 15 ,000 pound 40 foot long fifth wheel attached to this thing.

I can't really tell And Whenever I turn the turn signals

This it has this massive touchscreen 13 and a half inches wide. It's massive touchscreen all of a sudden

Camera Shooting back on that side So if I turn left all of a sudden

I see everything on my left side and it's got a red area Basically warning this is what you're gonna run into if you turn this direction right now

Okay, or the other direction either way and just pops up just there. It's like wow, that is really neat and cool

But the one major major major major major thing that We want to get working on this because it can do it the question is will be will we be able to get it do it on this trip is this thing

Has a rear -view mirror That is a digital screen It's a camera and We have put

GM's camera on the back of the fifth wheel and What it should be able to do and will someday do if it's the last thing

I do it will someday do When we hook up that rear -view mirror

Should still work for me you got to realize I've pulled a fifth wheel 85 ,000 miles now And what do

I see in my rear -view mirror every single time the front end of the fifth wheel nothing more So you've got to just do your side mirrors

With this the fifth wheel should disappear and I should be able to see the camera on the back

In my rear -view mirror. That's what I'll see is what's behind me and We're this close to it

We got the camera to work in a different angle But it won't put it on that screen yet because it doesn't see it as a rear -view camera yet So will we get that done before this trip,

I don't know I don't know But even if we don't

Everything else that it's got we'll make this trip Very very enjoyable a whole lot of fun.

Hopefully more more safe and everything and Hopefully I'll arrive at locations a little fresher

Thanks to all of that that's taking place. So once again our sincere thanks to those who made that Possibility for us and and everybody who supports the travel fund in the ministry

You know We had to have repairs done and and things like that in the unit and it wasn't cheap to have that camera installed so we

Handed the check to them today, even though they did find someone using a check rather unusual Us old people

Oh Boomers are here Yeah, yeah, it actually does save the money when you think about it the credit card companies but Anyway, so I'm looking so next week

Yeah, I I Think it's Friday that we move it over to prep area.

So it shouldn't it shouldn't impact the dividing line schedule We should be we should be good next week But then starting the week after that things are you get wacky because we'll be on the road.

So that's how it's gonna work Okay. Thanks for watching the program today, and we will see you next time.