Cursed Takes on "True Biblical Masculinity"

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All right. Today is January 15th. I almost said November again.

I almost... January 15th, year of our Lord 2025, and this is the

A .D. Robles YouTube channel, where lots of people come to hear one simple fact apply to many areas, and that fact is that you, men, you are not crazy.

All right, all right. Well, let's get into it today. Look, I know in the last episode I said this is not a masculinity podcast or YouTube channel or anything like that, but today's episode is going to be about this whole masculinity thing again.

What I want to do is I want to provide you with just a little bit of help. There's a lot of propaganda and weird, brain -dead takes out there regarding masculinity and what's true biblical masculinity and all this kind of stuff, and I just want to inoculate you to some of this stuff, because there's a common theme in a lot of it, and a lot of it doesn't pass the sniff test, right?

One thing about men is that they have a really good innate BS detector, and things that don't pass the sniff test, even if we're not 100 % sure how to explain how they don't pass the sniff test, we just don't buy it.

We don't buy it. We don't sign on the dotted lines. It's as simple as that. I saw someone share a

Spurgeon quote about how a lot of working men don't trust the pastorate and why they don't, and it was a very good quote.

I don't have it here. I couldn't find it again, but if I do find it, I'll share it with you, but that's totally true.

That's totally true. If you know anything about my story, you know that I came to faith as an adult, and when

I did come to faith, I was a real degenerate. I would do all kinds of drugs.

I would go to bars and try to pick up women and all this kind of stuff. I got involved in a variety of illicit affair type things.

I wasn't married at the time, but I guess you could figure out what I mean by that. I was a real mess, and eventually

I came back to faith. I grew up in the church, but I really made the faith my own as an adult.

I'll never forget just how it felt being in that church. It was such a weird experience.

At the time, I felt a certain kind of way about really the effeminacy of the church.

The songs were effeminate. The language was effeminate. Lots of things were just effeminate, the way that people interacted.

There was one example where, this is a little later on, after I came to faith a few years, I was leading a mission trip, and one of the guys that had signed up for the mission trip, paid his whatever it's called, the deposit kind of thing, he came to me and basically he wanted to tell me he didn't want to go anymore.

The way he told me was, you know, I just haven't felt the peace about it.

I haven't felt the peace about it since I signed up. I could not understand, why talk that way?

Why not just say, I don't want to go anymore? I don't want to go anymore. I would have probably not made a big deal of it if he just said,

I don't want to go anymore. But instead, he tried to over -spiritualize, I haven't felt the peace in my bosom about it.

You know, like that kind of thing. Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. But anyway, at the time, when I was new to the faith,

I just assumed the problem was me. I didn't understand what was going on. I was the one that was new to faith.

Maybe I just don't understand why it's like this. But then later, I discovered,

I got involved with, there's a few things that happened, but one of the things that happened was I got involved with some of the street preaching,

Reform Street Preaching guy, the crew out there. I went to one conference that was just all a bunch of dudes that were street preachers.

These are more hardened type men, you know what I mean? They would gather together, they would pray to the

Lord, and then they would boldly take the message to universities and abortion clinics and stuff like that.

I'll never forget, I brought a friend to this conference, and after the first day, I just remember telling him,

I didn't know Christianity could be like this. I had never experienced anything like that before.

These were like real dudes, you know what I mean? They were real men. And they obviously loved the

Lord, they obviously cared about the Gospel, but at the same time, they were dudes. And my friend was like, yeah, no, it's amazing,

I can't believe it. And you know, the trajectory of my life kind of changed after that, there's no question about it.

That's where the turning point for me was. It didn't have to be that way, it doesn't have to be female -coded, that's just the reality.

But in any case, here's the thing, there's ways that people countersignal masculinity that sound spiritual to a certain kind of person.

And it's really, it's all jacked up, it's all confused, but these things are commonly said and they just do not pass the sniff test.

Nobody is buying what you're selling. Some people are buying what you're selling, people that have a motivation to buy what you're selling, but dudes aren't going to buy it.

It's as simple as that, dudes aren't going to buy it. Here's a good example, I saw this shared by the

Mallard Reborn. This is from a guy named Ethan Jago, he says this, Biblical masculinity is not defined by your ability to, quote, shoot guns, quote, chop wood, or, quote, talk a big game.

It is by being humble, pursuing personal holiness, loving and leading your wife and family, and giving glory to God.

Sounds so good, right? How could he be wrong? I mean, you know, yeah, you got to be humble, you got to pursue personal holiness, love and lead your wife and your family, and give glory to God.

Now a couple things about this, people say this kind of stuff all the time, but really only one of these things is distinct to men, right?

Only one of them, and it really isn't all that distinct either. You see, being humble, pursuing personal holiness, loving your family, and giving glory to God, these are things that women are required to do as well.

Not only that, children are required to do these things. So obviously, these things can't define

Biblical masculinity, because they apply equally to women and children. People use this kind of stuff all the time, oh, you want to be a

Biblical Christian? Read your Bible and pray! It's like, are you freaking insane, dude?

Like, obviously men should read their Bible and pray, but children should do that too.

Women should do that too. This doesn't define masculinity, obviously. Obviously.

And then, of course, they throw in one that usually can only be, this is the one they usually throw in, you know, love and lead your wife and your family.

It's like, okay, well that one applies to men, because obviously a woman can't have a wife, we understand that, right?

But, you know, obviously wives have to love their husbands and family too, right? So really it's the leading your wife that's the only thing.

Right? Okay, so you got one that can be only applied to men, but again, it's very vague, right?

It's very vague. And so the minute you start to put content in the leading your wife, that's when this same dude will counter -signal you, most likely.

I don't know anything about Ethan, so maybe he wouldn't. But chances are he will. Chances are.

Because I've seen it happen so many times. Like, you know, you get somebody saying something wild like, you know, a husband should direct the kinds of books that their wives read, right?

The kinds of things that they consume and stuff like that. That's leadership, right? Yeah, you know,

I want my wife reading certain kinds of books and not others. I don't want my wife reading Amy Byrd. I want her reading, you know,

X, Y, Z. Like, the minute you start to say stuff like that, these same people will counter -signal you. Oh, what are you?

Are you a tyrant? Are you a tyrant? Oh, I don't want my wife wearing certain kinds of clothes.

Are you crazy? This is toxic patriarchy. You know, this is the thing.

Like, the minute you put any content into the things that are only for men, like leading your wife, that's when these people will counter -signal you to the hill and say, well, no, no, no.

We're talking about servant leadership. No, not the actual kind of leadership that actually makes directions and, you know, kind of, you know, actually tells people, you know, you should do this, not this, that kind.

No, no, no, no. It's the servant leadership that we need. You should be serving her. So, if she wants to go and wear spandex to the gym, well, you can't say a word about it.

That's insane. It's insane. But the Mallard Reborn actually saw something. So, that's what I would have said if I saw this tweet, right?

Because I see this all the time, where you just, you say, biblical masculinity is defined by all these things that apply to every

Christian, women, children, everybody. But then Mallard actually noticed something else, too.

This is what Mallard Reborn says. By the way, this is the beauty and the absurdity of internet dialogue, right?

Like, the Mallard Reborn, what a weird name. Who knows what that even means? He's saying something smart.

So, like, I gotta take the Mallard Reborn seriously, but at the same time, I gotta call him the Mallard Reborn. This is absurd, but it's also beautiful.

I love it. I love it. Mikey Shiznit. Here's what he says about this.

I thought this was so good. He says, this is their game. Take specific modern applications of timeless natural marks of masculinity, point out how they're not in the

Bible, and then dismiss masculinity entirely. So, what he's saying is, these are specific applications of timeless natural marks of masculine virtues, right?

So, shoot guns. No, there's no guns in the Bible, right? This guy thinks this is a good point. There's no guns in the

Bible? That's not how you define biblical men. There's not even guns in the Bible. But shoot guns,

Mallard Reborn says, that's equivalent to protect. You need to be able to protect women and children.

Your family. Your nation. Your town. Your society. Shoot guns, it's a modern application of that.

Because that's how fights happen now, you know, sometimes. I mean, not all the time. But, you know, lifting weights and being strong and being able to fight, these are also applications that will get you pilloried by pietistic, lame, effeminate

Christianity. You could easily put those there, too, and he'd still counter -signal that. There's no weights in the

Bible. They don't lift weights. What do you, lifting weights? But that's, it's protect.

It's the general, the general application is to protect, defend. The modern specific application of that could be shoot guns.

So Ethan Jago is actually counter -signaling protecting your house, but not doing it directly because he knows he can't get away with that, so he just says shoot guns.

This is the thing, like, have you ever noticed, like, there's obviously different character tropes in movies and stuff like that.

One of the most appealing ones is the guy, is the warrior, who is extremely lethal, right?

He's strong. He's an excellent fighter. You know, he's a lethal character, but he's a man of character, too.

He's someone that doesn't, he doesn't fly off the handle. He doesn't go overboard.

I mean, he's lethal, and when it needs to come out, it comes out, and he can defend you and stuff like that.

He's strong, but he's not out of control. He doesn't steal. He defends.

He protects with extreme lethality, right? That's one of the best characters in any movie.

Always, it always is. Mallory Bourne says, chop wood equals provide.

Right, that's right. Chopping wood is providing heat to your family, the ability to cook food and to have a household that can provide rest and respite and health and all this kind of stuff.

Yeah, not everybody chops wood anymore, right? But obviously, that is a placeholder for providing for your family, chopping wood.

It gets them ready for the winter. It shows somebody has foresight, right? Because you can't just start chopping wood when winter comes around, because you won't have enough wood.

You've got to plan for it. You've got to chop wood throughout the year, and it's the kind of thing where you know you're going to need it, but you don't have an immediate return for it.

You don't use it right away, but you chop wood over the course of a year, and then by the time winter rolls around and there's four months of freezing cold temperatures, you've got a stockpile of wood that you can use to heat your home.

This is providing for your family, not only in the here and now, but also in the future. That's a mark of, a natural mark, timeless, of masculinity.

Ethan Jago is choosing to counter -signal a specific application of that. There's no chopping wood in the Bible! I mean, there is chopping wood in the

Bible, but you know what I'm trying to say. He says, talking a big game. Biblical masculinity is not about talking a big game.

Remember a few months ago? Optimism is not a mark of masculinity.

Being optimistic. It's just unbelievable. Talking a big game.

The ability to lead. It's about the ability to inspire confidence in people. Talking a big game.

Look, there's ways to talk a big game sinfully. I mean, I remember there was a guy in my high school, he was a pitcher.

He was a good pitcher, but he used to say all this stuff about how his pitching tutors would say he's just like Greg Maddox and stuff like that.

He was a good pitcher, but he wasn't great. I mean, I could get a hit off of him, you know what I mean? I'm not

Tony Gwynn, you know what I mean? Talk a big game equals lead.

He says, don't fall for it. This is so true. I said this yesterday. In effeminate evangelicalism, you're allowed to talk about what a man should do in general terms, in very general terms.

Lead, protect, provide. These are things you can say, but the minute you put flesh and blood on it, the minute you put specific applications, specific examples, things that men can do today to kind of change this whole perspective, you want to protect?

Yes. Men are required to protect. Every effeminate Big Eva pastor would say something like that, but the minute you say something like, men, you're called to protect.

One of the things that you probably should do is be physically able to protect. In our culture these days, a lot of us have white -collar jobs.

A lot of us don't work with our hands and stuff like that. This might require some extra training.

This might require you to maybe do some deadlifts with me on the weekend, something like that.

You may need to do that kind of stuff because this is part of who you're designed to be. You're a protector.

You're a provider. You're a leader. You want to be able to do those kinds of things. In order to do that, you're going to need to have maybe some additional muscles than what you have currently.

We're not talking about becoming Mr. Olympia here, although if you want to do that, nothing wrong with that. We're talking about having the ability to do basic markers of a strong man, basic markers.

We're not talking about deadlifting 600 pounds, but I think if you put in a little bit of work, you'll be able to deadlift 300.

You'll be able to bench press 200. We're not talking about being Mr. Olympia here. We're talking about basic general strength.

You need to work on your cardio a little bit. There are a lot of guys out there that are strong enough to do those kinds of things, but they would never last in a fight because they've got no cardio.

It's insane. It's absolutely insane. Let's see what else we have here. There's another one that I wanted to –

Here's a perfect example. Dr. Joe Boot, obviously a smart guy, but he does the thing that I was talking about just a second ago.

Listen to this. Tell me which one of these things doesn't apply to women and children as well.

Tell me which one of these markers of masculinity and manhood, true masculinity and true manhood, which one of these things could you not equally say to a woman or to a child?

He says, Want to be a real man? Here is what to watch for and the true key to manhood.

This is the true key to manhood. He says, This is

Scripture. Evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived, but you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from your childhood you have known the

Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith, which is in Jesus Christ.

All Scripture is given by God, by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete and thoroughly equipped for every good work.

I mean, it's Scripture. You can't argue with Scripture. Obviously, none of us do.

None of us do. We agree with this Scripture. What I'm asking you, though, is how are these not the true key marks of womanhood as well, or childhood as well?

Scripture. Profitable for doctrine. Profitable for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete.

Maybe we're not talking about actually masculinity proper, but things that, you know, if you're going to be a man, you can't be without these things.

But maybe we're not actually having an all -inclusive, all -exhaustive list of what masculinity is.

Maybe. Just maybe. It's amazing that this is what you often get when people talk about biblical masculinity.

Oh, you pray, you read your Bible, you know, you instruct yourself in righteousness.

It's like, women do that stuff too. Women do that stuff too. It's unbelievable.

How do they get away with this? I have a theory of what's going on here, by the way. This is so true.

This is so true. Eric Kahn, everybody's favorite person, he says, look, a man takes an interest in literally anything and tone -deaf, you know, effeminate evangelicals.

He doesn't say effeminate, but I'm going to say effeminate. Tone -deaf, effeminate evangelicals say, stop making that thing an idol.

Real men pray and read their Bibles. And he says, this is a great way to make sure men never listen to you again.

This is so true. This is so common. And then Ben Delwery here says, wow, Eric, why do you hate prayer and the

Bible? I've heard this response myself so many times. So many times.

And, you know, in the context of what we were just talking about, I've seen this happen so often, especially with weightlifting, stuff like that.

You know, a man starts saying, maybe I'll be a strong man. Maybe I'll take my weightlifting to the next level and start engaging in competitions and stuff like that.

You are for sure going to be called an idolater at that point, for sure. You know, guys, we even care about things.

We can have interests. That's not off the table for us, obviously. It's sad.

It's absolutely sad. Let's see what we got here. There's a couple others that I saw.

I should have been more ready for this. That's just how we do it here, though. That is how we do it.

Here's Matthew Pearson, young guy. He gets it, though. He says, Conversations about manhood and humility in relation to the

Christian life would be much easier if people understood the nature -grace distinction and the role between the two, what civic virtue is in relation to the supernatural virtues.

100%. 100%. This is one of the big problems that we have. And actually, I think this is kind of what drives a lot of these brain -dead takes.

Again, here's another Eric Kahn. This is what we've been talking about. Real masculinity is, and then he lists spiritual qualities that a woman or child could do.

It's not about, and then he lists, genuine masculine competencies, virtues, and skills that throughout history have been markers of authentic masculinity.

100%. That's what we've been talking about. And I think this is kind of what's going on. This is something that I've talked about many times, but I think pastors and ministry folk, you know, they have this really kind of self -centered view of the

Christian life. A self -centered view. And so they will talk about the things that are, the only things that are important, according to a lot of these men, are the things that they themselves engage in.

Their charge, their area of life, right? And what are they charged with? Pastors, elders, you know, things like that.

Well, they're charged with your soul, right? They're keeping guard over your soul.

And so, of course, the spiritual things in life are the things that they think about constantly. And good for them, because that's their job, right?

They think about that constantly. The spiritual health of my flock. The spiritual health of this individual.

You know, these kinds of things. They spend their time in prayer and studying, and rightfully so, because that's their job, right?

That's the whole purpose that we got these elders. They spend their time in prayer. They spend their time studying.

They spend their time learning and preaching and teaching and all this stuff. That's their job, right?

But what happens is there's an imbalance sometimes that comes with this, where they start to think, well, that's my job, and I'm a

Christian, and so I guess that's everybody's job, right? And they actually preach and teach as if your job as a

Christian is to be just like them, to have the same job, the same focus that they do.

But that's actually not the case. The people in the pews are not pastors. And even though they should read their

Bibles, they should pray, their lives are going to look differently because they have different vocations.

They have different areas of influence. They have different focuses of their life. They're still Christians, and so, of course, they still do things that Christians do, but they're not going to spend their time and study in prayer to the degree that the pastor elder does.

That's not how it's supposed to work. They're going to spend their time doing what they do. And so what ends up happening is the defining markers of a masculine men to them are these things that they're doing.

And so you end up getting taught an image of masculinity that looks like them. It's about them.

Not about what masculinity actually is. It's about them. And so, yes, they lead their wives, right?

They lead their families. So that's all good. But, you know, they don't chop wood.

They don't hunt. They don't shoot guns. So that stuff, that's off the table now for masculinity.

But the trick is, a lot of these guys, they actually do do those things. They do do those things. You know,

I've got masculine pastors. They do those things. But they feel like they can't teach that as masculinity because that's not it's not what their lives are revolving around.

Let's put it that way. It's a very, very weird situation.

This is one I saw this morning. Allie Best Ducky likes it. So you know it's true.

Tomorrow. Rob Brunansky. Rob Brunansky. Esau was a paragon of modern masculinity.

He was hairy, probably had a great beard. He was a hunter, very manly. Not a mama's boy, a man's man if there ever was one.

See to it that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau. Maybe those things aren't biblical manualists after all.

He thought this was a banger, man. He thought this was a mic drop. This is stupid. This is stupid.

I mean, low IQ doesn't explain it. This is brain dead.

Brain dead. As if in the scripture, when it says, see to it that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau.

As if what was meant by that was all this stuff. He was hairy. See to it there's no hairy guys with great beards.

See to it that there's no one skilled at hunting. See to it that everyone is a mama's boy.

Like Jacob, allegedly. See to it that all the men in Christ are mama's boys.

Is that what the scripture was saying there? Is that what was the immoral part of Esau? That he was hairy?

That he was a hunter? That he was not a mama's boy? That's the part that was immoral. That's the part that was godly.

If you read this brain dead, low IQ tweet, you might get that idea. But obviously, that's not what the

Bible was talking about. Obviously. Obviously. It boggles, it boggles the mind how any

Christian, much less a pastor, could type this out and think this was meaningful.

This is stupid. It's very stupid. It's hard to even put into words how dumb

I think that is. And of course, Allie Beth Stuckey thinks, oh that's a great point. Fantastic point. That's not a point at all.

That's stupid. Look, obviously, lifting weights, hunting, you know, having a beard, these are not enough to make a man.

Obviously, we understand it. We all get it. We all get it.

But, at the same time, as Mallard Reborn so eloquently put it, a lot of these things are markers that are timeless.

And they have modern applications. And they have modern situations.

We understand. Contextually, we all gotta figure this out.

Because, you know, there's a way in 2025 that a man ought to dress.

And it was different than the way men ought to dress in year 30. And yet, a man ought to dress a certain way because that's how it is in culture.

Contextually, that's, you shouldn't dress like a woman. And likewise, women shouldn't dress like men.

But the thing is, there are these timeless roles, right? Like, hunting.

I don't hunt. I don't hunt. I don't think there's a single person, maybe, maybe, maybe.

Maybe there's a single person that thinks I'm less of a man because I don't hunt. Right? But to counter signal hunting, as if, like, somehow that's, like, the

Bible's against it, right? And you should discourage men from hunting. Christian men should be discouraged from hunting.

It boggles the mind. It really does. It really does. There's so much just sophistry out here with Christian evangelicals counter signaling masculinity as if it's something that needs to be repented of.

Honestly, this is how I felt when I first came to faith. And I mentioned that I noticed everything was effeminate.

I felt like some of these parts of me were, like, of, you know,

I was a man, right? Some of these parts of me were, like, sinful in and of themselves, right?

You get this with speech all the time, like, having a direct way of communicating. And sometimes that can be sinful if you, you know, obviously you've got to consider the occasion, consider your audience, all that stuff.

But just, like, the idea of it, like, it was almost like, you know, Christians can't talk directly. They have to have more grace than that, you know what

I mean? Like, masculinity so often is treated as if it's a sin to be repented of, as if, in order to be a good

Christian -loving, you know, man, you have to act like a woman. This is so common.

It's so common. I'm not blackmailing here, but it's just,

I'm at a loss for words at the stupidity of some of these statements. Like, this Rob one, this Rob Brunansky, all to score some points, like, he was in all, like,

Rob was in all his glory here when Ali Bestucky told him he had a good point. Like, this was the reason he wrote this, was to get women to say, that's right, that's right, and to Jesus Juke, and to feel spiritual and superior and stuff like that.

That's why he wrote this. He got what, this is his reward for this. He got it. He got it.

Ali Bestucky thinks he has a good point. And I'm sitting here like, how could you be so brain -dead?

How, just to counter -signal masculinity, you make a ridiculous, like, this is not a point.

This is stupid. One has nothing to do with the other. What are you talking about? The logic here is brutal.

I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm not blackmailing, because there's a lot of good guys out there that get it. Tons of good guys out there that get it.

But, man, we have fallen quite of, we've got a lot of work to do, man. Like, the vibes are impeccable.

They're immaculate. There's a vibe shift for sure. We're headed in the right direction. But, I think we're a lot further off from the goal than I thought.

We're a lot further off. It's like, it's like when you're climbing a mountain, and you're like, oh, the summit is right up above that ridge, and you get to the ridge, and it's like, nope, we've got a thousand more meters to go.

That's how I feel right now. I feel like I thought the summit was right there. Turns out, we're only about half way.

In any case, I hope you found this video helpful. God bless. Speaking of Greg Maddux, man,

I've never been a big fan of Greg Maddux. You know, as a Mets fan, naturally, he was the bane of my childhood existence.

But, I recognize, of course, that he's one of the greatest pitchers of all time. But I did not know this story about Greg Maddux.

I think this ties into masculinity, because sometimes, knowing that, knowing the best thing, like the thing you have a duty to do, like it's your duty to do it.

It may not be the best thing for you personally, but your duty as a man sometimes overrides your own personal desires.

And this is a story about Greg Maddux. He was told before this start that if he didn't win this game, that he would be sent back to the minor leagues, which is clearly not good for him, right?

That's not a good thing for him. Of course, you want to stay in the major leagues the minute you get called up. But a situation arose where he had a duty to do something, and he had no choice.

He had to fulfill his duty. This is, man, now this, this is a masculinity example, if I ever saw one.

If he doesn't win, he's going back to the minor leagues. I remember

Eric Schau was pitching and hit Andre right in the face. Oh, a pitch ball!

Oh, boy, look at Dawson. You know, Hawk was, he was our main guy. I remember him laying right there on home plate, kind of knocked out, and then he came to and, you know, spit a bunch of blood on the plate and then he started looking for Eric Schau.

He's on his feet. Now he's looking for Schau! He's looking for Schau! It was a pretty good brawl.

There's such a good Schau! They're trying to keep him away! Look at this!

He's doing it! That's Tony Gwynn. We're just talking about him.

What'll be interesting, Harry, is when Greg Mannix goes out, what he will do. They can kick him out of the ballgame now.

And it's a dilemma because it's a 4 -2 game, he has not qualified for the win. And I said, hey, here's what you're doing.

You're gonna go get three outs, you're gonna get the win, and in the sixth inning you do whatever you want. And he looked at me and he went, no.

He goes, I'm hitting the first guy. I said, if you don't go get three outs, they're gonna send you to the minor leagues.

And with tears in his eyes, he said, I don't care if I ever get another win. And I'm getting goosebumps right now.

I can still see his face. Santiago's hit by a pitch.

And he is ejected. Here we go again. He hit him. He got sent down to the minors.

And I think he had the minimum 15 days or whatever it was. He was back in the big leagues. And he never saw that minor league bus again after that.

I certainly would have lost a ton of respect if I didn't hit anybody. That was way more valuable than any win

I could have ever gotten. Epic, man. Epic. Knowing he'd get sent back to the minor leagues, he went ahead and hit him intentionally anyway because that's what he had to do.

You just gotta love that, man. Sometimes your duty overrides what's good for you personally.

Epic, man. Epic. But that's not in the Bible, so forget it. That's not a sign of masculinity. In any case,